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It's been a common theme across numerous sites to adopt a "Linda lied" stance but never actually demonstrating where she lied and what the lies were.One thing I am glad of though, is that I was able to read most of her 18 day testimony, questions, complete with lawyer meetings with the judge and all. The question is why would Atkins leave Sharon, alive and alone, in the house to take this little stroll? I remember reading it over at the now dearly departed Cat's site. It means nothing moreExcept that his 'opinion' was that of the prosecutor that went towards the securing of the conviction. Mind you, what she told Marvin Part was nuclear ! She was once a member of Charles Manson's Family. She's the black loving, anti-racism alternative. people who assert their opinions as biblical truths.I am not picking on him, but just by way of example, Saint said."The real Losers in this entire sage are the victims and their families".First of all, no offense but that is a "duh" statement to the point of being a cliche.Second, it is said that you can't compare pain any more than you can compare love. That Tex was the nicest guy. Not even in her Grand Jury testimony did Atkins say anything. Oh and I don't think the events are clear long before Jay Sebring is shot. When I've told people of how I came to be living there and what I experienced in those 4 years and how I got away, people think it's ever such a dramatic tale. Dreath, I seem to agree with most things you have said.Does it carry any weight with you that The Actual Killers say they want there to ignite H/S?? Ok- Ill be devils advocate.Where does light fusioninto anything with Linda? Anything she says next is what I mean by 'unreliable'. Not because she was some kind of sunshine superwoman, but because others {TJ, Ella Jo, Brooks P, Juan Flynn} did likewise and some of those that she helped condemn to death in the gas chamber backed her up on this, both before her arrest and after. She had four children. The two traveled the country, enjoying the hippie lifestyle from commune to commune. She droved straight to New Mexico, where her husband was living with another woman. He'd lose his train of thought and numerous times the Judge would ask him to put things in ways that could be understood because he didn't have a clue what Irving was on about. Charles Manson was in complete control of the ranch and its people and instructed everyone on what to do. As we all know Linda Kasabian was born Linda Darlene Drouin on June 21, 1949. With her marriage falling apart, she decided to move in with the family on their dilapidated Spahn's Ranch. Goddamn I am tripping back to like 1998. The involvement of Susan and Gypsy in the Shorty affair has come to light too. I am not convinced the motive as described by Bugliosi is 100% accurate. Afterwhich, Manson dropped Linda, Sadie, and Clem off at a Venice Beach apartment complex. Attack me again or some shit? RH: Maybe like this?1. Linda Darlene Kasabian, aka Yana the Witch, was born on June 21, 1949, in Biddeford, Maine, but she grew up in Milford, New Hampshire. Leslie told Marvin Part what she believed.Marvin Part thought she was mad.Part taped her and asked her questions that brought the very answers that had led him to the conclusion she was a lunatic.Part wanted the Judge to hear the tape but he refused and ordered 3 psychiatrists to listen to it to see if they felt she was fit to stand trial.Leslie herself refused to be examined by any psychiatrists because as far as she was concerned she was perfectly sane.Leslie fired Marvin Part.The events mash rather than bear out your assertion.We also overlook the fact both Manson and the girls could have easily attempted to put the entire thing on Tex WatsonThat's a really good point. I think we agree again. Even if all the things said about her are true in terms of immunity and self interest, that doesn't change that. Thank you for this post- very interesting and thought provoking. Remember, she too was indicted following the Grand Jury. The Brits threw him out because he was accused of rape. I believe, in fact I know, others were present when he was killed who were never even charged. So you are relying on two witnesses that are diametrically opposed as to this event. Truancy? The people I have met who support Charlie cant stand her. MM, Should I assume you don't believe Manson is innocent of any crime and are arguing motive and reasons testimony is weak, etc, a lot of which I probably agree with? For Susan it was over relatively quickly so Sharon being left alone for a short space of time may not be as relevant as you imply it is. Or for purposes of this blog do they show an alternative narrative to what is the official narrative. Your Resource for the Tate-LaBianca (TLB) Murders. It was at night and I had no knowledge of what was happening until we actually got there." The brackets are my comments. Same with Shea. Eventually, she. As they say, truer words were never spoken. At the age of sixteen, she married Robert Peasley; however, the marriage did not last long and ended just after a few months. Over here in England, working as a care assistant in a home for the elderly is not really seen as particularly caring work much of the time, it's often seen as a job anyone can do that wants to earn definite {low} money and the overwhelming majority of care workers I've known have not been native to these shores. document.write(part3 + ''); I don't know.Q. So that is another mystery.All in all, I'd say what he could/should have been charged with doesn't add up to a life in prison and being America's poster boy for evil.I'll also say I don't think the case was handled properly and that he was used by various people for political and personal ambitions and while he is no angel, I don't think he is all bad and find him to be far smarter than the average idiot you deal with on a day to day basis. I suspect most of "the people affected by what she helped do" just want to live their lives and not be pursued by or pestered by anonymous internetters.My historical interest is not in any of them, though my heart goes out to them. Thanks DREATH for a great expose on Linda. There are several occasions where he brings out testimony he doesn't need for a conviction just to make her look good. Crucially, Sadie came out, spoke, watched Tex hit Wogiciech then ran back in again. It's always the Charlie supporters who make those statements and spread those stories about other motivesDuring one of her parole hearings, Pat did make a statement about "the two women in the house" which some have picked up and conflated with the "Sharon wasn't supposed to be there" red herring. ME thinks there might be a REAL story there. ?I don't think money or looks has anything to do with it, nor do I personally care much who anyone else has sympathy for. And there are events that logically it seems she had to see that she says she didn't. A car accident left Linda mildly disabled, and unable to work. document.write(part3 + ''); BUT even self-hate can have positive results and be a driving force for good.Supposedly there has been ONLY one person planted on this earth who was ALL good, but even HE committed assault & battery on "innocent" victims. More weight does not necessarily make it right or definitive.That said, quoting various bods is more for the interest of seeing exactly what they did say about certain of the incidents/matters we're all discussing and sometimes providing illumination.If Watson is attacking Voytek..And Krenwinkel is chasing AbigailAnd then Sadie came running out of the house, Who was watching Sharon Tate?No one. At the time they went over and killed those people because they believed it was for H/S. At least ONE Black man personally died in the jungles of Vietnam so HE could get a FREE Blow-Job.AND it will NOW likely come out that "joining a local police force" was the perfect safe-haven for those WHO only thought of themselves - FIRST.IF you actually take a peek behind the headlines - Oh what a different perspective you might find.Like Johnny MaCain, our GREASTEST surviving war HERO shot down from HIS airplane in Vietnam. She, like all of us, was/is a flawed person but not totally on the dark side. You are all welcome. People who developed life long drinking and smoking weeds habbits as 15 and 16 year old's with no steady parental influence. On a different note: RH- nice post. Sandy Good said that on a talk show she was on with George and Patti and I think Bugs might have been there too.Thanks though. At least ONE Black man personally died in the jungles of Vietnam so HE could get a FREE Blow-Job. DEBUNKING THE BUNK PART 1: A Look at Joel Rostau, Thoughts on the LaBiancas and the motive on August 10th, Benedict Canyon Acoustics and Bugliosi's Timeline, The Law: Conspiracy to Commit Murder, Felony Murder and One for the Colonel. Her Other Children Bob Kasabian I read this post and it clearly paints a picture to me that maybe others see differently. It was through Charles Melton that she came into contact with Catherine Gypsy Share, a member of Manson family. If she just forgot it at home, I suspect it would be mentioned as having "No license" or "without".Oh and $150,000 sold confession, book deal and promise of immunity from the gas chamber is a sell out move. If it took Clem 2 years to clear the drug residue from his head and Susan 5 years to be thinking clearly and Gypsy a decade to free her mind of Charlie & Spahn and if Brooks can say Charlie had a vice grip on his mind and if Tex can admit that he ran away then came back, then ran away finally then still made his way back, was somehow drawn back, then you can see that young people aged 20~23 weren't going to suddenly switch back to pre~rebel thinking and self preservation and put it all on Tex when he was part of the Family. It's intriguing if nothing else. He is expressing his opinion just like RH, me, you, Saint, etc. He knew the revolutionary struggle had to abandon the failed policies of men like Martin Luther King, the 'old' left and even the 'new' left. Some people just drift into any old job. I don't believe he was the masterminded behind the Hinman murder. I have a terrible habit of taking this too personally. As soon as he enters the LaBianca house, ties them up tells them not to worry it is only a robbery he is done. and the reward]A. I cannot say a definite time because, as I said before, I had no concept of time when I was there. You don't agree. Linda married again, this time to a hippie named Robert Kasabian. Dreath, pleased to make your acquaintance. If you are saying he is wrongly in jail..As soon as Manson enters the LaBianca house, ties them up, tells them not to worry it is only a robbery he is done as soon as someone is murdered, especially IF he then told the rest to kill them but even if he didn'tThat, my friend, is felony murder and, no, it doesn't matter you, personally, didn't 'intend' to kill anyone. She kept away from media attention except for once when she agreed to do an interview for an American television program A Current Affair in 1988. You can correct me on that one. The same night, Manson instructed Linda Kasabian to take part in killing of actor Saladin Nader herself. His questioning of her at the Grand jury didn't minimize the horrors of what she was about. What she said about Leslie was dynamite. You believe she was largely an accurate witness. So if Kasabian stumbles on what he wants and says they arrived at the Polanski residence "4-5 hours after dark". Can't we all just get along? Until you examine it. She was instructed to wait outside and stand guard, while the rest went inside and killed Sharon Tate, Jay Sebring, Wojciech Frykowski and Abigail Folger. Kasabian saw it as an opportunity to flee the ranch (without Tanya). A month before he was even on the case, the police had Charles Manson down as a suspect and things were unravelling.Not only that, they all happened to be dramatic and under the surfaces lurks alternative and more reasonable possibilitiesAll happened to be dramatic ? That makes Ms. Kasabian (as the key witness) a bit of pet project of mineWhat sort of things would you have done that weren't done by the defence ?There are multiple times where her testimony is not supported by the physical (objective) evidence Can you enumerate some of them ? Who are these Black Muslims and what exactly is THEIR role in the Black and White race WAR ?2) Did Charles Manson have some kind of personal connection or understanding with the Black Muslims ?3) Were there any OTHER connections to Helter Skelter, besides the Beatles song of that same name ?4) What exactly was YOUR understanding - on August 9th and 10th 1969 - of WHY the TATE / LaBianca murders were taking place ? Manson wasn't talking. If Linda did in fact have a valid driver's license. Were never even charged ' < /a > ' ) ; I do n't believe he the. Masterminded behind the Hinman murder Nader herself too was indicted following the Grand Jury did n't and there events! 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