ecclesiastes 8:15 commentary

There is no man that has power over his spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it ( Ecclesiastes 8:8 ). Of that Solomon is certain. Where the word of the king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What are you doing? Commentary on Ecclesiastes 8:14-17 (Read Ecclesiastes 8:14-17) And one ruling another to that ones own hurt here is evidently a mistranslation. You see, the real delay in the return of Jesus Christ is just God's unwillingness that men should perish. That all of the talk of the rapture of the church and the return of Jesus Christ is just piped dreams, a misinterpretation of scriptures. eat, and to dispensations of Providence_._ _Howeve Who is as the wise man? THE FOLLOWING COMMENTARY COVERS CHAPTER S 1 THROUGH 12. Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. But he also knows that often the opposite is true (14). 5:18; Ecclesiastes 9:7 To be merry This he speaks of sensual delights. Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Adam Clarke Bible Commentary, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Albert Barnes' Bible Commentary, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Annotated Bible by A.C. Gaebelein, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Arthur Peake's Commentary on the Bible, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Coke's Commentary on the Holy Bible, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - College Press Bible Study Textbook Series, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Dummelow's Commentary on the Bible, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - EasyEnglish Bible Commentaries, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Ellicott's Commentary On The Whole Bible, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - ETCBC data on Hebrew bible, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Expositor's Bible Commentary (Nicoll), Ecclesiastes 8:15 - G. 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Viewed by itself, and apart from its conte ECCLESIASTESNOTE ON ECCLESIASTES 8:14 It is a puzzling VANITY that This comes straight from other Scripture, God stating that it would be well for those who feared and obeyed Him, with their days prolonged (Deuteronomy 5:29 Deuteronomy 5:29O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!American King James Version; Deuteronomy 6:2 Deuteronomy 6:2That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you, you, and your son, and your son's son, all the days of your life; and that your days may be prolonged.American King James Version, Deuteronomy 6:24 Deuteronomy 6:24And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.American King James Version). Nor does it mean that the person will be afforded protection by the government, though he or she well may, as all do to some extent. experience of a THEN I COMMENDED MIRTH,. Innocent mirth, a cheerfulness of spirit Read the Scripture: Ecclesiastes 7:15-8:1 The book of Ecclesiastes is the most exhaustive investigation ever made as to the value and profit of various lifestyles. _ 1. and the seemingly unequal distribution of things in this world, But in context the wording appears to continue the warning about not getting into trouble with the government. He said, "Okay, you can go now." He's giving you chance after chance after chance. Not so. Our present life is a life under the sun, but we look for the life of the world to come, which will commence and continue when the sun shall be turned into darkness and shine no more. ASV To report dead links, typos, or html errors or suggestions about making these resources more useful use the convenient, International Standard Bible Encyclopedia. There is futility which is done on the earth, that is, there are "I'm a prosperous cheat, so God is condoning my cheating. That improves our situation in life and keeps us from ways that would make things worse for ourselves. The beginning of verse 5 says that the person who keeps the kings command will experience nothing harmful. This does not mean nothing bad will ever happen to the person. He saw just men to whom it happened according to the work of the wicked, who, notwithstanding their righteousness, suffered very hard things, and continued long to do so, as if they were to be punished for some great wickedness. The end of verse 5 and verse 6 say that a wise mans heart discerns time and judgmentor what decision to make and when. Nay, [3.] Just as there is no escape from a battle, so there is no guaranteed success to wrongdoers (6-8).Often there appears to be no principle of justice at work in the world. Still, the language resembles the skeptical precept (1Co 15:32), introduced only to be refuted; and "abide" is too strong language, perhaps, for a religious man to apply to "eating" and "mirth.". I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God. That's the sum of life for you, so you might as well live it up because you're going to be burning after a while. As the same commentary notes: Somesay that the Preacher is simply making the best of a bad situation, that Solomon is a cynic. This he speaks, either, And they give their hearts and their lives over to evil to live an evil life. Verse 15. It is these men against divine Providence, and the inferences they dra Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, God puts up with so much. If the spirit of the ruler rise up against you, leave not your place; for yielding pacifies great offenses. The writer returns to the sentiment expressed already (Ecclesiastes God doesn't really know." ". yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him ( Ecclesiastes 8:12 ): Now, in the end the best life is the life of fearing God, walking with God. Notice that the Preacher is giving us a God-centered perspective and that in verse 15 he is talking about the days of our life as a gift from God. [1.] Who is as the wise man? life was a low one. I commend joy, he says (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version), and the word he uses for commend is a Hebrew word for praise (shabach). $15.99 As low as $8.00. which God giveth him under the sun; 196-197). He maintains his patience, moreover, in spite of the moral burdens he carries that might otherwise cause him to act impetuously (v. 6b; for the trouble of humanity is heavy upon him [and he wants to do something about it]) (Garrett, note on verses 2-6). Thus the Preacher warns against a capricious desertion of ones post (cf. God does care. He hasn't come and He's not going to come. We see the just troubled and perplexed in their own minds, the wicked easy, fearless, and secure,--the just crossed and afflicted by the divine Providence, the wicked prosperous, successful, and smiled upon,--the just, censured, reproached, and run down, by the higher powers, the wicked applauded and preferred. abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God gi _No good for a man, &c. Some commentators think the wise man here But Peter said, "God isn't slack concerning His promises, as some men count slackness, but He's faithful to usward. [25] I applied my heart to know, and to search, and to seek out wisdom, and the reason of things, and to know the wickedness of folly, even of foolishness and madness: The wicked go unpunished and, even when they are dead and buried, people still praise them for their achievements in life (9-10). He saw wicked men to whom it happened according to the work of the righteous, who prospered as remarkably as if they had been rewarded for some good deed, and that from themselves, from God, from men. Benefits of wisdom, respecting government and We must keep in due subjection to the government God has set over us (v. 2-5). THE BENEFITS OF WHOLESOME RECREATION Article Images Copyright 2023 Getty Images unless otherwise indicated. That Jesus isn't coming again. Ecclesiastes 1:15:: King James Version (KJV) Ecclesiastes 1:15 - That which is crooked H5791 cannot H3201 be made straight: H8626 and that which is wanting H2642 cannot H3201 be numbered. let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die.American King James Version, where Paul used these words negatively, as in Isaiah 22:13 Isaiah 22:13And behold joy and gladness, slaying oxen, and killing sheep, eating flesh, and drinking wine: let us eat and drink; for to morrow we shall die.American King James Version, of those who did not believe in a resurrection and hoped only in this life.] No man has any power over the spirit. He believed, even when there was no evidence for believing! (quoted on p. 135). Or it could be that all the men of Israel took an oath as part of the nations military. Here he shows, 1. Here are given the four uncertainties mentioned above, the verse means that, "Not even great wealth will enable the wealthy to defy these limitations." [15] No discharge in war regards the uncertainty that threatens one who may be drafted into a war by some absolute monarch. Solomon in Proverbs 10:7 Proverbs 10:7The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot.American King James Versionwrote, The memory of the righteous is blessed, but the name of the wicked will rot. Perhaps the frustration in Ecclesiastes 8:10 Ecclesiastes 8:10And so I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done: this is also vanity.American King James Versionis simply that the wicked were able to die and receive a proper burial after a long life without having to face up to what theyd doneall the while having been permitted in life to be regularly in Gods temple, a sacrilege and mockery of religion. CHARACTERS: God, Solomon. [17] Be not over much wicked, neither be you foolish: why should you die before your time? Recall that chapter 5 was the first instance of direct exhortations in the booktelling us to be careful in our approach in coming to worship God, the One in whose hands our lives are and who can help us through the present difficulties. Yet these words of the Preacher show us the futility and foolishness of a life lived without an eternal perspective. He's very loving. O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever! It has a spirit of hopeless despair; it has no praise or peace; it seems to promote questionable conduct. A man cannot find out the work of God though you search it out. This is not some kind of terror of God, but a profound respect that does include, as with children who love their caring parents, a healthy fear of disappointing and, yes, incurring judgment, recalling that God chastens every son He loves (Hebrews 12:5-11 Hebrews 12:5-11 [5] And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to children, My son, despise not you the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when you are rebuked of him: COMMEND PLEASURE, FOR THERE IS NOTHING GOOD FOR. Ecclesiastes 8:1. We don't have that power. And He is patient and merciful towards us as we struggle to walk in His ways, even despite our many and ongoing failures. . Because to every purpose there is time and judgment, therefore the misery of man is great upon him. Beyond Today Bible Commentary: Ecclesiastes. The future is so uncertain. The NIV renders the phrase in verses 5 and 6 as proper time and procedure. The New American Commentary notes: The wise man thus waits for the proper moment to make his case or take a stand and does not waste his influence on a lost cause (v. 3b). 2. Ecclesiastes 8:13. wicked men sometimes do not live out half their days, which, according to the course of nature, and common term of life, they might be thought to live; or if they prolong their days in wickedness, as sometimes they do, ( Ecclesiastes 7:15 ) ; yet their days at longest are but a shadow which declines, and is quickly gone; or . This joy will make labor more enjoyable. 2. By any of these interpretations, many see here a statement about not being able to withstand the inevitability of death generally. Solomon in verse 2 says to keep the kings command, not My commandhe being the king. 3:22 ) ( 5:18 ) ; Mirth therefore, and a contented enjoyment of God's gifts, preferable to immoderate care and search, Ecclesiastes 8:15. Then, besides the perspective we need to have and the righteous life we are to persist in, we are again given the prescription of the books refrain in the third major sections conclusionthe enjoyment of life that God blesses us with: to eat, drink, and be merry (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version). can do is to enjoy life while he has it. EAT, AND TO DRINK, AND TO BE MERRY. But because God doesn't judge immediately, because the sentence of God isn't executed speedily, because God is giving you opportunity to turn, God is giving you opportunity to repent, God is giving you the opportunity to come out of your sin and to be saved and He's very patient with you. Nevertheless, there is joy for us in the ordinary things of lifeeating, drinking, and sharing fellowship with the people of God (p. 198). MAN UNDER THE We should respect and follow that rule, with the benefits of doing so and the avoidance of an approach that will bring more troubles on us than would otherwise ensue. But ultimately, it will go only this way when God sets everything right. 2: vanitas vanitatum dixit Ecclesiastes vanitas vanitatum omnia vanitas. Ecclesiastes 10:4 Ecclesiastes 10:4If the spirit of the ruler rise up against you, leave not your place; for yielding pacifies great offenses.American King James Version) and against persistence in any disloyalty (Eaton, Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries, note on Ecclesiastes 8:2-3 Ecclesiastes 8:2-3 [2] I counsel you to keep the king's commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God. 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ecclesiastes 8:15 commentary